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Obama Targets Climate Change Doubters

President Barack Obama and student Jacqueline Rodriguez flash the symbol of the school mascot
President Barack Obama and student Jacqueline Rodriguez flash the symbol of the school mascot "Anteaters" of the University of California, Irvine, in Anaheim, June 14, 2014.
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U.S. President Barack Obama Saturday took aim at congressional Republicans and others who dispute climate change, as he issued a call to action on global warming during a commencement speech at the University of California, Irvine.

The president told graduating students Saturday that Congress "is full of folks who stubbornly and automatically reject the scientific evidence." He likened those who deny climate change to people who would have told President John F. Kennedy, at the dawn of the space program, that the moon “was made of cheese.”

Obama's address to about 8,000 graduates comes two weeks after he announced a plan to dramatically cut pollution from power plants.

Obama also used the appearance to announce the creation of a $1 billion competitive fund for states and communities affected by severe weather. He said the funds would be awarded to state and local authorities with the most innovative plans for rebuilding in a way that protects against future disasters.

Some information for this report comes from AP.

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by: Randal utech from: Richmond, TX
June 14, 2014 9:36 PM
The climate changes.
Anthropomorphic global warming is a hypothesis.
The rock record records climate change over tine.
Solar activity is correlated with global temperatures.
All Climate models are wrong..some are useful.
The ocean holds the last vestige of the recent warming trend since it retains heat.
Recent hype on climate change is geared to impose a carbon tax.
Desperate they are since the trend is now cooling.

by: Anonymous
June 14, 2014 9:33 PM
wat tha

by: Liber8 Gilead from: everywhere
June 14, 2014 9:30 PM
So long as you can buy a CO2 laser by mail over the internet, Global Warming is REAL and operates by the exact same scientific principles. To PROVE that CO2 Global Warming is a hoax you have to prove that CO2 lasers don't exist on this planet.
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by: The other guys from: Away
June 15, 2014 10:08 PM
Brilliant. Did Obama and the DNC tell you that?
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by: RK Brumbelow
June 14, 2014 11:02 PM
@Liber8 Gilead What? I do not think you understand the principles behind a laser, certainly you do not understand those behind a gas laser.

There are nitrogen lasers, nitrogen makes up several orders of magnitude a higher percentage of our atmosphere than CO2 (CO2 is ~.004%, N2 is ~78% or 19500x more present) so by your above logic we should be dead from UV radiation.

Your logic is so twisted I am forwarding it to my old philosophy department so they can use it as a negative example.

by: Anonymous
June 14, 2014 9:27 PM
...what does the president know about climate change...
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by: RickRock
June 15, 2014 1:35 AM
No, the point is that the president, being a non-expert on the subject, trusts scientific experts on the subject who DO know something about it, while congressional Republicans who reject those scientists' findings base their rejection on no legitimate scientific expertise whatsoever.
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by: allie from: Baltimore
June 14, 2014 10:14 PM
More than you
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by: George Schmitt
June 14, 2014 10:11 PM
He went to college and studied science and is therefore not ignorant on the subject. You, on the other hand did not study science anywhere and are therefore ignorant of the facts. So shut up and let people who are educated make the decisions about it.
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by: Anonymous
June 14, 2014 9:43 PM
He knows everything just ask him

by: John Beckwith
June 14, 2014 9:26 PM
There is no "consensus" and the warmists have NEVER acknowledged the position of the skeptics. They refuse data requests and hide behind their "peer reviewed" studies.

These warmist-scientists are not free to let their data lead them to a conclusion.
The same division between warmist and skeptic within the general population exists between the elite warmists sitting on the IPCC panel and skeptical scientists with PhD's.

So I say to you, if a scientist is already fully aware that he/she cannot publish a study apposing the IPCC's views without being labeled a "skeptic", blacklisted and thrown out of their cushy job. Then they already know they need to draw a conclusion BEFORE they begin a study. This is called Agenda-Driven-Science. They form a conclusion, go out and gather data, make observations, shape this data to fit their conclusion then "confirm" it with a climate model from the great USA's full time modeling center funded by, you know who, this global warming-loving administration.
This isnt science folks, it is politics. This has been going on since the 90's.
One day you all will pull your head out of the sand and realize this. But you are too invested to admit you believed a hoax. You will need the IPCC to stumble and falter. This is already happening.
Try climate Audit, and look into Judith Curry's blogs to learn what the media simply refuses to report...just as they have done for 20 years.
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by: Glenn
June 14, 2014 10:25 PM
John,

Poor dogma. Sorry bro, but you are badly out of touch with scientific reality.

Consensus? What do you think that would look like? The majority of the scientific community in agreement? Well it is. You just don't want to accept it. Do you actually understand or follow the scientific community? I think you are talking out of your league.

"They refuse data requests and hide behind their "peer reviewed" studies."

Do you realize what you are saying here? "Scientists hide behind that fact that other scientists can validate their claims. It's all a big conspiracy!!!"

I think this statement makes it pretty clear that you do not understand the scientific process. Do you know what peer review means? It means that others have to be able to reproduce the results of your studies. Furthermore, it means that others have failed to disprove the results of your studies.

...and if you really want to bring "skeptics" into this discussion, there is a huge community of scientific skeptics that are devoted to disproving pseudo science in every form - holding all forms of outlandish scientific claims up to real scientific scrutiny. You might be surprised to find that this community embraces the current scientific consensus on climate change.

Are you hiding behind your agenda?
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by: Allie from: Baltimore
June 14, 2014 10:23 PM
Ignorance is bliss. You flat earthers will die like all living things. In the end at does matter to those who inherit the planet after us. Denying climate change is cowardly and ignorant.
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by: Z from: Here
June 14, 2014 9:37 PM
Who's paying you to spread these lies?

by: marque2 from: United States
June 14, 2014 9:12 PM
It is so sad that the lie of global warming still exists.

We know you are trying to funnel money to you contributors through dubious green projects - and that is the only reason you keep up with the fraud.
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by: George Schmitt
June 14, 2014 10:12 PM
Life rafts for polar bears huh?

by: well from: earth
June 14, 2014 9:10 PM
Global warming is real, Climate change is real. Who ever denies this simple fact is stupid. However what people fail to realize is, that climate change has been going on for billions of years. Its a natural earthley pattern. Everything has there cycles and paterns, we have seasons, the sun also has its own solar cycles, why can't the earth's climate do the same?
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by: 1worldnow from: Earth
June 16, 2014 7:42 AM
Well Mr Well, it's millions of years, not billions. We have semi-sufficient evidence of climate changes that may have occurred hundreds of millions of years ago. Haven't I told you a hundred thousand times not to exaggerate?! Aside from my witty sarcasm, you would be correct about the 'natural side' of global warming. If you do have a valid point or an opinion to be considered, then injecting insults (stupid) will have your opinion treated as such. As FedUpWithLiberalBoneHeads did.

This is a forum, for people like us, to have intelligent discussions and debates. Politicians are only interested in what interests your vote, that's true on both sides of the fence. When politicians take the helms of the scientific communities' voices, that's when we should all cover our ears. We are not politicians, and we have no need to defend either side. Both, well all, parties are extremely disappointing. So it's agreed? No more insults?

We shouldn't treat this like Facebook? Here's what we ALL do know about global warming: the world came out of an Ice Age, so yes, the world has to be warming; can anyone of us say when the geological equinox will occur, in other words, when the world will have reached it's peak warming period since the Ice Age, I doubt it; do we need to find better and cleaner sources for energy, absolutely; should we kick the politicians out of the scientific communities, YES!!!! Remember when Al Gore warned us of ManBearPig? Ooooops, that was on South Park, my bad. But still funny as hell.
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by: FedUpWithLiberalBoneHeads from: USA
June 14, 2014 9:44 PM
Global warming is a political scam and you need a mirror before you call anyone an idiot, idiot!!!!!!!

by: DiogenesDespairs from: NJ
June 14, 2014 8:41 PM
Tjere are, for those interested in global warming, some crucial, verifiable facts - with citations - they should know about human-generated carbon dioxide and its effect on global warming.

The discussion is too long to fit this space, but is a quick and easy read and may be found at

http://hseneker.blogspot.com

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by: Chris Crawford from: Oregon
June 14, 2014 9:23 PM
I think that it's your blog that is the hoax. Its arguments are absurd.

by: Mosin Tom from: USA
June 14, 2014 8:41 PM
SO, how is Obama going to stop this?

http://phys.org/news/2014-06-major-west-antarctic-glacier-geothermal.html

Maybe sign an EO to make it stop?
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by: Xavier Lefort from: San Antonio
June 14, 2014 10:02 PM
Simple Simon tom, Doing nothing got use here. Taking some measurable action will slow the process until we create better
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by: Paul Ottens from: Willcox AZ
June 14, 2014 9:17 PM
An EO or indeed legislation cannot stop the changes going on in the climate. Either could help slow the change by requiring responsible action. Neither is likely, and time is running.
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by: patrick from: sacramento
June 14, 2014 9:03 PM
The right question is: What can each of do to protect our environment, every day? We have the answer. No one person can solve our problem.

by: Anonymous
June 14, 2014 8:37 PM
hmmm, I thought "weather wasn't climate." But now it is? George Orwell was indeed prescient: these power-hungry fools just keeping changing the language to suit their ideology.
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by: Bill Thompson from: Houston
June 14, 2014 10:25 PM
Joe Fabitz...This country has already buried itself alive in debt and on top of that we have out of control borders with illegal aliens rushing to get here. We are broke sir and we don't have the money. There is NO MONEY FOR ANYTHING MORE! When the world does at least what we have done with emissions and the EPA then lets talk about what we can do. The US is NOT the worlds problem so get real. We are doing enough already. Fixing the world...really? The world is not broken Obama and those like you are.
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by: Joe Fabitz from: NC
June 14, 2014 9:01 PM
Weather isn't climate - and I see nowhere in this story where anyone said it was. However one of the effects of climate change is (has been) a marked change in weather patterns, including more extreme conditions. You'll get it one of these days.

A fund that provides incentives for the best use of federal funds is a great idea. Maybe Governors will show a little less political favoritism and more a practical use of those funds, based on the long-term needs of the communities affected. Done right, that saves us all money in the long run.
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