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Study Says Smoking Bans Do Not Hurt Jobs in Bars, Restaurants

26 May 2009

This is the VOA Special English Health Report.

Smoking is the world's leading preventable cause of death. In the United States, smoking rates are down from the past, but cigarettes still cause about one-fifth of all deaths.

Nonsmokers are also affected. Thousands in the United States die each year from heart disease and lung cancer from breathing other people's tobacco smoke. Secondhand smoke also causes breathing infections in young children. It can even cause sudden death in babies.

A worker in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania last year takes a cigarette break. The state has since banned smoking in most public places.
A worker in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, last year takes a cigarette break. The state has since banned smoking in most public places.
In recent years there has been a strong push for local and state governments to ban public smoking. The American Lung Association says half of the fifty states have passed smoke-free laws. Some measures are weaker than others. But many are comprehensive bans -- they include restaurants and bars as well as other workplaces.

Wisconsin and North Carolina both approved smoking bans on the same day this month. Wisconsin passed a comprehensive ban that will take effect in July of next year. 

North Carolina passed a ban on smoking in restaurants and bars; it takes effect in January. The new law may not go as far as some would like, but the action is historic. North Carolina is America's top tobacco producing state. 

Other proposals are being debated across the country.

Opponents argue that smoking bans cause job losses in restaurants and bars. As a compromise, some bans exclude these establishments. But new research rejects this argument.

Elizabeth Klein, an assistant professor at the College of Public Health at Ohio State University, was the lead author. She says the study was the first to compare the economic effects of different kinds of smoking bans. She says the study looked at restaurants and bars because research suggests that people who drink alcohol are also more likely to smoke. 

The study examined employment records for eight cities in Minnesota for a three-year period through two thousand six. These cities have differing policies on public smoking. The study also included two cities with no such restrictions.

Professor Klein says the employment differences were so small that they could not be considered significant. Communities with the strongest policies had nine fewer employees per ten thousand community members than those with partial bans or none at all.

The study appears in the June issue of Prevention Science.

And that's the VOA Special English Health Report, written by June Simms. Transcripts, MP3s and podcasts are at voaspecialenglish.com. I'm Steve Ember.



Comments:

1. try to quit smoking everywhere

my wife and I quit smoking some years ago and we are so happy for that. Everything is better since we did. I´m forty seven and go to the country everyday in hard places for walking doing that better than before and with far less affort, the food and the drink taste even much better. I advice everybody to get it, they never won´t regret at all and finally I feel younger and the blood run freely and quickly throug my vains. good luck and try that
Submitted by: enrique (spain)
06-14-2009 - 11:04:52

2. smoking

Smoking is harmful for our health, everybody know this , but there still are so many people smoking .
Submitted by: Tony (China)
06-13-2009 - 06:17:47

3. dying from smoking

What a about people who never smoke, didn't go to bars or hang around smokers and died of lung cancer? How about the millions of people either dying from drinking or killing others while driving a car. Don't think it is your place or government to get in our face tell us, when and where we can smoke. Most smokers are polite and do not smoke where there aren't smokers. Who is the biggest lobbyist on tobacco? Smokers pollute the out of doors is a real scare tactic??? What about over taxing people who buy liquor every year? Smokers don't kill people with second hand smoke and there are not studies to support that nuttly idea. Whatever, carry on with your ideas. Smokers just should have a choice. Are tobacco taxes really going to pay for health care for those who don't have health insurance? If that is true, I don't mind being taxed on cigarettes at all.
Submitted by: Lanna Neal (United States)
06-10-2009 - 19:27:56

4. Cover-ups and lies....

This study seems to have very deliberately covered up the results for bar workers by combining them with the much larger restaurant worker population. If bar workers were examined alone for the two largest cities studies it turns out that ELEVEN PERCENT of them lost their jobs and a totally unknown, but probably significant number had their hours reduced or lost tips. Government smoking bans are bad laws based on lies: don't believe the stuff you hear so much on the media about how good they are: talk to the people who've experienced them. . - . Michael J. McFadden, Author of "Dissecting Antismokers' Brains"
Submitted by: Michael J. McFadden (USA)
06-02-2009 - 19:54:48

5. comprehensive ban is right

Comprehensive smoking ban may cause job losses but it can prevent a huge expense on medical service. Government can use the resource to create more vancanies.
Submitted by: BB (hong kong)
06-02-2009 - 13:23:26

6. reply for comment No. 27

If we talk about numbers! we look at it from both sides: the benefits and the detriments. you say that 313 bars are closed and 5,4000 people lost jobs!!! this is obviously detriment but let us look at the other side! How many people die every year because of smoking? around 5.4 million people die from smoking annually according to: http://www.inforesearchlab.com/smokingdeaths.chtml so regardless of those how lost their jobs people who lost their life are more important. and those who lost their jobs, can find another job.
Submitted by: Majed (Australia)
06-02-2009 - 07:31:18

7. Bar employment was DECIMATED!

This study seems to have very deliberately covered up the results for bar workers by combining them with the much larger restaurant worker population. If bar workers were examined alone for the two largest cities studies it turns out that ELEVEN PERCENT of them lost their jobs and a totally unknown, but probably significant number had their hours reduced or lost tips. Government smoking bans are bad laws based on lies: don't believe the stuff you hear so much on the media about how good they are: talk to the people who've experienced them. . - . Michael J. McFadden, Author of "Dissecting Antismokers' Brains"
Submitted by: Michael J. McFadden (USA)
06-02-2009 - 04:49:25

8. Not quite correct

"Professor Klein says the employment differences were so small that they could not be considered significant." That's not quite true. The rate results say that a partial ban is associated with an INCREASE in employment, but a total ban is associated with a DECREASE, and when applied to the sample community populations these translate into gains or losses of up to hundreds of employees. These are NOT trivial numbers. But the statistical p-values - the probabilities that these results aren't really different from NO change at all - don't meet the usual standard of 5% or less. Instead, they're around 10%. So it's not that the results are small; it's that they're not "tight" enough to separate themselves "sufficiently" from the possibility of being merely flukes of the sample. They're only 90% sure instead of 95% sure. Do you dismiss them NOW?
Submitted by: Argus (USA)
06-01-2009 - 07:02:09

9. Smoking bans don't hurt bars, restaurants

http://tinyurl.com/mywd3d University of Minnesota/OSU Tobacco Control Study Flawed; Combining Data on Bars and Restaurants Skewed Results COLUMBUS, Ohio, May 29 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Ohio newspapers, radio and TV news recently broadcast the results of a study performed at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health with Elizabeth Klein, Assistant Professor, Health Behavior and Health Promotion, Ohio State University as lead researcher. This study was funded by ClearWay Minnesota, a non-profit organization that funds Minnesota tobacco control, and used employment data as its sole economic indicator. This study gained headlines in the media as "Ban hurting business? No, study says." (Columbus Dispatch, May 19, 2009, front page). All Headline News opened with "New research suggests that smoking bans in bars meant to improve the environmental quality of indoor air doesn't cause job losses." (Note: No reference to restaurants). What is not mentioned is t
Submitted by: Rebecca (USA)
05-30-2009 - 00:46:09

10. thaks

I have read this article and I have translated it to pusto language in my class.
Submitted by: naseer (pakistan/swat)
05-29-2009 - 12:03:34

11. Smoke ban in entertain area

Smoking ban at all restarunt and bar will be effected later time. Government did a lot measures to restrict people smoking in public place in order to avoid second hand smoke affect the non-smoker. The intention is good. However, I deem more affords and resources must put on helping people to quite smoke which is the root cause for harm our healthy . Every smoker know that smoking is unhealthy, most of them attemped to quite smoke but in vain, because quitting smoke is similar to quitting drug, it is a difficult and painful process.
Submitted by: Jovi (Hong Kong)
05-29-2009 - 10:32:21

12. Smoking ban is good

Last month, my class had a discussion about the advantages and the disadvantages of smoking. I absolutely agreed with a strong ban the people from smoking in the public places. I think smoking is a bad habit and smoking in the public is worse because it affects many other people who don't smoke. If people don't think of effect from whatever they do, passing the law will be a necessary consequence.
Submitted by: HoaNN (Vietnam)
05-29-2009 - 09:43:37

13. stop the bad habit

there is no doubt that smoking poses great problems to our health.however,to stop smoking is not easy for most of smokers.my father used to smoke alots until tobaco really troubled him.he got a serious sick of respiratory system after a long time smokingit made him relize that it's time to change his bad habit.he asked himself the question of what is far more important,his health and his family or the poisonous cigarrettes.he decided to stop it.since then he's recovered and has maintained a normal health.so please consider carefully,what is more essential to you,your harmful habit of smoking or your healthy and happy lives?then you know what you really should do for yourselves and people surrounding.good luck!
Submitted by: do quang anh (Vietnam)
05-28-2009 - 16:09:05

14. Worth to do it

I think doing something is needs to pay cost, especially establishing a new law. The ban of smoking in public places is acutually hurt the business. But I think the effect is not strong enough that you find in the above report . You can also save a lot of money from buying cigarete or even take medical treatment. So the advantage is outweight the drawback. I absolutely agree the smoking ban.
Submitted by: Seraph (HK)
05-28-2009 - 10:19:52

15. Smoking Ban Smoke Screen

Ok lets say the smoking bans add a additional 10 years to a persons life span. With nursing home cost at $70,000 a year. So lets see with our baby boomers ( just say like 20,000,000 we add a extra 10 years onto their life and being in a nursing home at $70,000 a year not including any hospitalization we get $14,000,000,000 ,000 needed to keep their diapers changed! Dang and the Health Care Industry just said they could save two trillion dollars? Sounds like smoking related illness in the few billion dollar range is a real savings! People are living longer, but long life may not be accompanied by good health. In 1940, a 65-year-old woman could expect to live an additional 14.7 years; by 2000 a 65-year-old woman could expect to live another 19.5 years, and by 2040 women are expected to live an additional 22 years. Chances increase that as people age they will develop a chronic condition or physical or cognitive disability for which they will require assistance. For example,
Submitted by: Billy (USA)
05-28-2009 - 05:15:54

16. smoking is a threat

In Hong Kong,smoking is prohibited in most of the public areas such as park ,restaurant and other housing estate.I strongly support the ban on smoking since my father is a smoker but none of my families does except him.It is extremely intolerable
Submitted by: Bill (Hong kong)
05-28-2009 - 04:58:21

17. Thank you for being a none smoker

As women we don't like our husbands smoking. Every bodies know that smoking cause a lot of problems !! A few years ago. I talked to my husband " I 'm a lucky women because you are not smoking and drinking.which were save a lot of money for the family " Do you know what he answer to me ? He said " Honey not only the money.The most important that I save my health for you too"
Submitted by: Kim Hong Ta (Canada)
05-28-2009 - 00:14:11

18. Clever idea

I think it is really good, ban smoking. Most people that smoking are unpolite because they do not care about others heath. Over here in my country ( Brazil) we're going to ban smoking , and I think it's marvelous :) People don't deserve get sick because of the others' fault.
Submitted by: Fernanda Maisa (Brazil)
05-27-2009 - 23:11:36

19. US is a Nazi Dictatorship

It proves that the US is nothing but a Nazi dicatorship, using Nazi pseudo-science to shove tyranny down the world's throats. They deliberately use studies based on nothing but lifestyle questionnaires, to falsely blame tobacco for diseases that are really caused by infection. More than 50 studies have implicated human papillomaviruses as the cause of over 22% of non-small cell lung cancers. This equals over 30,000 cases, which is over ten times more lung cancers than the anti-smokers pretend are caused by secondhand smoke. Passive smokers are more likely to have been exposed to this virus, so the anti-smokers' studies, because they are all based on nothing but lifestyle questionnaires, are cynically DESIGNED to falsely blame passive smoking for all those extra lung cancers that are really caused by HPV. A significant proportion of lung cancers blamed on active smoking are actually caused by HPV as well. Obviously, there is a corrupt, politically-motivated coverup of a far larger ca
Submitted by: Carol (US)
05-27-2009 - 22:19:52

20. Smoking laws don't hurt buinesses

Prohibition..makes a crime out of things that are not crimes.. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principle upon which our government was founded. Abraham Lincoln (December 1840)
Submitted by: Tom L (Canada)
05-27-2009 - 20:55:56

21. Smoking ban do not hurt businesses

Another study shows that smoking bans hurt bars and restaurants. How can it Not hurt business?? The non-smokers do not and never will replace smokers and their friends. Common sense tells you that. Let the politicians get off their tuffs and speak to the hospitality industry and find out the 'real' truth about smoking bans
Submitted by: Tom L (Canada)
05-27-2009 - 20:52:00

22. Minnesota smoking ban eliminated 10,000 jobs

Smoking ban caused no harm to employment in Minnesota? Really?.....I wonder why these 329+ establishments closed eliminating 10,000 jobs in the Twin Cities area after smoking bans were enacted here? http://cleanairquality.blogspot.com/2009/05/clearway-minnesota-funds-new-study-to.html
Submitted by: mark ()
05-27-2009 - 19:05:36

23. It is good

Smoking is banned in public places. It is a good rule, but I think, Ban should be on those product which are not good for health. Thanks for good article.
Submitted by: Sulbha (India)
05-27-2009 - 16:00:23

24. smoke

I think that smoking in the area opened to the public is a rude act, and people should not smoke in there. Smoking in restaurants or bars does not need to be banned by officials because this is a necessity of being a human. good report, thanks...
Submitted by: nec (turkey)
05-27-2009 - 15:23:41

25. Smoking should be banned in public by law in China!

Many diseases are due to smoking. I gree totally with the views of this report. Hence I strongly propose that smoking should be prevented in public in China. Although, some situations are getting better, this problem is still serious. The smoking peoples are a larger range covering boys, yong ladies, young men, young women, and the elders. However, it is very difficult to call for some agencies to take measures to ban smoking , because a large number of profits are resulting from smoking. The effective approach, I think, to banning smoking lies in efforts of our individuals.
Submitted by: Henry Li (China)
05-27-2009 - 13:07:15

26. thanks

I have read this article and I have translated it to persian language in my class.
Submitted by: Ava (Iran)
05-27-2009 - 10:58:52

27. It is necessary to smoking ban.

a lot of money was spent to buy tobaco and alcohol. It is waste of money therefore prehensive smoking bans is necessary for good health and ecomic nowaday.
Submitted by: nguyen Viet Tran Nam (Vietnam)
05-27-2009 - 08:32:30

28. Smoking should be banned in public places all over the world

Smoking is the cause of many diseases such as tuberculosis, liver cancer, lung cancer....It not only affects the health of smokers but also the people around who inhale the second-smoke. If women smoke during the time of pregnancy, it may affect their expecting child. The baby will be born underweight, malnourished or having many inborn sicknesses. Smoke from men smokers are often the cause of cough, respiratory disorders of all members in a family. Moreover than that, children are easy to be influenced by smokers, they are often curious and easy to intimate, they will make an attempt to smoke and then become a smoking addict. Some people have to spend a lot of money everyday for their smoking; it brings them nothing just the decline of their health. To protect the health of human, I think, smoking should be banned in public places. To reduce the number of smokers, government should put high tax on cigarette. The more expensive the tobacco is, the less people smoke cigarette.....
Submitted by: Autumn leaf (Vietnam)
05-27-2009 - 07:09:41

29. Ban smoking!

My father has lung cancer, so I really hope that this world will not have anyone smokes. My country also has many people smoke, specially majors. It is difficult to ban smoking, because smokers say that when smoking, their brains feel comfortable. Under high pressure of work, they usually smoke. As tense nerves or sadness also smoke. There many reasons why many people smoke. So besides education, also need law.
Submitted by: phuong (Viet Nam)
05-27-2009 - 06:33:13

30. It is a logical subject

I quite agree with the banning law. In Vietnam, people smoke easily in public place. I think that it is not good because it will affect the others. The better way is that we should have the private area for making in the public places such as restaurants, bars, air- ports ....
Submitted by: Dragon (Vietnam)
05-27-2009 - 06:08:56

31. Klein's study

Klein's study was supposed to be done because exemptions were being considered for standalone bars-so WHY did she include restaurant employment figures? Here's why: in Minnesota, restaurants outnumber bars 3 to 1. National figures show restaurants have 10 employees for every 1 bar employee. Consider she got data on 1084 bars AND restaurants. Following Minnesota's data, that would mean there were 361 bars and 723 restaurants. Factor in the national average and that puts these bars, if they only had ONE employee, at 361 employees to restaurants' 7,230 employees. Read the 2007 study by Scott Adams and Chad Cotti. Klein closely followed their methodologies EXCEPT she COMBINED employment figures for bars and restaurants. Adams and Cotti did not and found that bars were immediately impacted and continued to be impacted while most restaurants had little impact. THAT'S why Klein included restaurants. I wonder if VOA News will press Ms. Klein to do her study with bars and restaurants sep
Submitted by: Pam Parker (USA)
05-27-2009 - 03:54:05

32. up in smoke!

I would bet that driving a car is the leading preventable cause of death. The public is surely learning that the smoking propoganda was created by big pharma, even researchers are awakening to their influence in regard to scientific studies. Too many studies end up against in big pharma's favor to the detriment of freedom and private property. Profit for the drug companies influence legislation and the big losers are freedom loving people!
Submitted by: marleneb (USA)
05-27-2009 - 03:08:45

33. Smoking bans

I enjoy listening to the articles of voa news.com every morning. I tried to finish doing the kitchen work very quickly in the morning in order to have spare time for myself. I like listening to various kinds of stories here in a quite room with fresh air and brilliant sunshine coming in through the windows. Yes. In Korea, lots of places are bannedagainst smoking, but still restaurants, coffee shops and bars are free for smoking. I have a little child, so when I visit there, my little child and I are exposed to secondhand smoking. The more strict law should be practiced, I think.
Submitted by: Lee YunHee (Korea)
05-27-2009 - 02:59:11

34. Smoking bans do not hurt jobs

Does Elizabeth Klein live under the umbrella of big pharmaceutical companies? Just wondering. She seems to be completely unaware that 313 bars closed in Ohio in 2007 after the smoking ban. More than 5,400 people lost jobs as a result. Permit holders lost 67.4 million in sales. Knock, knock, anyone there????
Submitted by: Rebecca (USA)
05-27-2009 - 02:38:07

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