WHITE HOUSE - President Donald Trump called Wednesday for a "radical change" to the structure of U.S. aid to countries deemed not sufficiently assisting the United States in keeping violent illegal immigrants from heading here.
"We're going to work out something where every time someone comes from a certain country, we're going to deduct a rather large amount of money from what we give them in aid," promised Trump. "We may not just give them aid at all, because despite the reports I hear, I don't believe they're helping us one bit."
Trump did not specify any countries.
The president's remarks came Wednesday at an event, held inside a homeland security center in Bethpage on New York's Long Island, which the White House said was intended to be "a call to action for legislative policy changes."
In an interview with Fox News at the same site, but broadcast Thursday, Trump said he would not approve any immigration reform bill unless it includes funding for stronger border security and his desired wall at the U.S.-Mexico border. He also wants to do away with the U.S. visa lottery and family-based immigration.
"It's time to get the whole package," Trump said.
WATCH: Trump Wants Cuts in US Aid, Insists on Calling MS-13 Gang Members 'Animals'
Focus on MS-13
Much of the conversation Wednesday among the president and others, including family members of victims of gang violence, at the round-table event focused on MS-13 — a criminal gang that originated in Los Angeles and has spread to much of North and Central America. It draws many of its members from El Salvador.
The Central American country, plagued with drug gang violence, is estimated to have the fifth-lowest per capita income in the Western Hemisphere.
Overall, according to authorities, MS-13 is blamed for 25 killings on New York's Long Island in the last two years.
Long Island is home to some of the wealthiest communities in the United States. But other areas of the expansive and densely populated island are less affluent and ethnically diverse, with one out of every five residents considered to be Latino.
At the event, 60 kilometers (37 miles) east of the skyscrapers of Manhattan, Nassau County Police Chief Patrick Ryder said, "We know we have a president who has our back and supports us every day." Ryder explained that his department had identified 250 active members of MS-13 and that last year, in his jurisdiction, "six kids" were slain by the gang.
Children 'afraid to go out'
"It's unthinkable. It's almost like an occupied territory where your children are afraid to go out," Trump said of Long Island, an area he said he knew well from growing up in nearby Jamaica Estates in the Queens borough of New York City.
It was Trump's second visit to Long Island during his presidency to speak about immigration.
Participants at Wednesday's event defended Trump's initial comment last week referring to MS-13 members as "animals."
"They are animals in how they kill, get these kids and torture them," said Evelyn Rodriguez whose 16-year-old daughter and a 15-year-old friend were slain by MS-13 in 2016.
During the round-table, Trump again emphasized that the gang members are "not people, these are animals."
The acting director of U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement, Thomas Homan, asserted that MS-13 followers are even worse than animals.
"Animals kill for survival," he said. "MS-13 kills for sport."
Many immigration rights activists interpret the invocation of such dehumanizing language as an attempt to degrade the majority of immigrants, legal or undocumented, who are not involved in crime.
Also of special focus during the round-table was the issue of children who are detained for being in the country illegally.
U.S. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein explained that under the law, all unaccompanied alien minors, even if they are gang members, have to go before a federal judge and cannot be expeditiously extradited.
"Most of them, once they're released, they're here to stay," because they don't show up for subsequent legal hearings, according to Rosenstein.
Some of those children who do not have gang ties then end up developing them, he said.
Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen complained that "we still cannot bar known gang members from coming into our country."
She vowed to "close those loopholes, and we will take our communities back under President Trump."
A local Republican congressman, Lee Zeldin, told Trump that he favored revoking naturalization of those found to be involved in gang violence before becoming U.S. citizens.
"We need those laws to change," responded Trump. "The laws are horrible."
The president has accused the leader of the opposition Democrats in the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, of defending MS-13.
"Finally, they're starting to break up," said Trump of Democratic lawmakers, who he contends have been unified in opposition to his immigration policies.