U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin shake hands as they take part in a family photo at the APEC summit in Danang, Vietnam, Nov. 10, 2017.
U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin shake hands as they take part in a family photo at the APEC summit in Danang, Vietnam, Nov. 10, 2017.

WHITE HOUSE - U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin shook hands and exchanged a few words Friday at the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation summit dinner in Vietnam.

The brief encounter came after the White House attempted Friday to put to rest speculation that Trump might hold talks with Putin on the sidelines of the summit. White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said the two leaders may have a brief chat, but will have no substantive talks.

"Regarding a Putin meeting, there was never a meeting confirmed, and there will not be one that takes place due to scheduling conflicts on both sides," Sanders said in a statement issued to reporters. "There is no formal meeting or anything scheduled for them.

The statement did, however, hold open the possibility that the two leaders might have an informal conversation while they are both in Danang for the summit proceedings.

"They’re going to be in the same place. Are they going to bump into each other and say hello? Certainly possible and likely," Huckabee Sanders wrote. "But in terms of a scheduled, formal meeting, there’s not one on the calendar and we don’t anticipate that there will be one."

FILE - Staffers install U.S. and Russian flags as
FILE - Staffers install U.S. and Russian flags as part of a bilateral meeting, Aug. 26, 2016. Theoretically, U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin would have an opportunity to meet Friday in Vietnam but it's not clear whether substantive talks will be scheduled.

Mixed message

Russian news agency RIA Novosti on Friday seemed to contradict the White House, holding out hope a substantive meeting might still take place. A one-line bulletin reported, "Kremlin Says Possible Meeting Between Putin and Trump at APEC Summit Still Being Worked On."

The Russian side had earlier issued seemingly conflicting views about the possibility of a meeting. Kremlin aide Yury Ushakov told Russian news agencies that the two leaders would hold talks, but Reuters quoted Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov as moderating that statement, saying only that the possibility of a meeting was being discussed.

While en route to Danang on Friday, U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said he had seen the Russian reports but said nothing had been agreed to. 

In a brief exchange, Tillerson said the United States wants progress on a number of issues, and there would be no point to hold a meeting if they didn’t think they would get the progress.

A day earlier, Tillerson had acknowledged that Moscow and Washington were working behind the scenes on a "number of difficult areas." But he questioned whether this would be the right time for a follow-up to the first Trump-Putin meeting at the G-20 summit in Germany last July.

Russia's President Vladimir Putin talks to Melania
FILE - Russia's President Vladimir Putin talks to Melania Trump during the official dinner at the Elbphilharmonie Concert Hall during the G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany, July 7, 2017.

?Hamburg meeting

That meeting in Hamburg lasted more than two hours, more than twice as long as scheduled. Trump was reported to have pressed Putin at that meeting on the question of alleged Russian meddling in U.S. elections. Later in the day, the two men were reported to have spoken again informally during a dinner for G-20 leaders, with only a Russian interpreter present.

Since then, however, ties between Moscow and Washington have deteriorated. In August, Trump grudgingly approved new congressionally mandated sanctions against Russia. The Kremlin responded by ordering Washington to substantially cut its diplomatic staff in Russia.

Trump himself mentioned the possibility of a follow-up meeting last weekend, telling reporters aboard Air Force One that he expected to meet Putin in Vietnam to ask for help in reining in North Korea’s nuclear weapons development. He made a similar comment Thursday in Beijing after meeting with China’s President Xi Jinping.

Tillerson said officials from the two countries also are discussing conflicts in Syria and elsewhere in the Middle East, while Trump also said that Russia’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election also remains on the table for discussion.

Several scholars of U.S.- Russia relations are leery of direct Putin-Trump talks at this delicate time in the relationship.

Kremlin critic Andrei Piontkovsky, a visiting fellow at the Hudson Institute in Washington, says Putin stands to gain much more from the meeting than Trump.

"It would be better if the United States and Russia have good relations, but the fact is, Putin is challenging the U.S. everywhere in the world, including on their own turf, and Trump doesn’t seem to consider that is hostile to western values, democracy and human rights," Piontkovsky told VOA. "It’s very strange because Trump declines to notice these worrisome facts."

Piontkovsky considers it foolish to ask for the Kremlin’s help in lessening the North Korean threat. 

"That ignores the fact that the tremendous progress of the North Korean nuclear program is enabled by Russian help," Piontkovsky argued. "Putin is much more an enthusiastic supporter of Kim Jung Un than Xi Jinping. He demands that the U.S. reconcile itself with the idea of a new nuclear power."

Charles Stevenson, associate director of the foreign policy program at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies in Washington, called a Trump-Putin meeting "risky" for U.S. interests.

"Presidential-level meetings can be helpful in smoothing over misunderstandings and allowing exchanges beyond the glare of publicity or even the knowledge of subordinates," Stevenson said in a written reply to VOA. 

"But they can also be extremely risky if not coordinated in advance in order to achieve some agreed communiqué," he added. "I have real doubts that President Trump is skilled and knowledgeable enough to reach any substantive agreements with President Putin."

Pavel Sharikov, a political analyst at the Russian Academy of Sciences' Institute for U.S. and Canadian Studies, said a Trump-Putin meeting could be counterproductive if it does not produce results.

"Such meetings are usually held when there are already some accords, as well as prospects of getting a result, since a meeting without any result is even worse than a meeting that was not held at all," he said.

Alexander Baunov, a political analyst at the Carnegie Moscow Center, said the lack of a formal meeting between the two presidents indicates relations between the two nations "are in crisis."