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    China Accuses Vietnam of Hyping Oil Rig Dispute

    Chinese State Councilor Yang Jiechi (L) listens to Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung in Hanoi, June 18, 2014.
    Chinese State Councilor Yang Jiechi (L) listens to Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung in Hanoi, June 18, 2014.
    VOA News
    Talks between Chinese and Vietnamese officials in Hanoi over disputed waters turned turbulent Wednesday, as China's representative accused his counterparts of "hyping up" the conflict.

    China's Foreign Ministry quotes State Councilor Yang Jiechi as telling Vietnam to stop disturbing Chinese operations at sea, inflating differences, or creating new disputes over challenged territory in the South China Sea.

    Yang also said the disputed Paracel Islands are "China's inherent territory."

    There was no immediate Vietnamese comment on the talks. The Vietnamese side was represented by Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung and Foreign Minister Pham Binh Minh.

    The Hanoi discussions were the first high-level talks between the two sides since the May deployment of a Chinese state-run oil rig, which led to a maritime standoff and deadly anti-China protests in Vietnam.

     
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    Before the meeting, Foreign Minister Minh expressed hope that the talks would help improve strained relations between Beijing and Hanoi.

    "We wish to discuss and resolve the complicated situation in the East Sea and to help develop healthy and stable relations between the two countries for the benefit of both sides and the region," said Minh.

    Yang earlier acknowledged the dispute is damaging relations between the two communist-led countries, which fought a bloody, three-week border battle in 1979.

    "China and Vietnam relations are experiencing a difficult period. On this trip, as appointed by our Central Committee, I am to discuss candidly and thoroughly with Mr. Pham Binh Minh the two countries' relations and current issues in the South China Sea," said Yang.

    Vietnam says Chinese ships have sunk one of its ships and damaged 24 others, as well as injured 12 members of its fisheries surveillance force. But China accuses Vietnamese ships of being the aggressors, saying they have rammed Chinese ships 120 times since early May.

    The U.S. has said it does not take sides in the dispute and wants countries in the region to settle their differences peacefully.

    China's territorial claims in the South China Sea overlap with those of Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei.

    This report was produced in collaboration with the VOA Vietnamese service.

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    by: gosho from: vietnam
    June 22, 2014 5:25 AM
    China, you must get out of Vietnam's territory immediately now silently or you will face serious consequencies like in the history.

    by: Reality
    June 21, 2014 11:08 AM
    @VietL, your comment looks like a kids. Whatever is near you is belong to you. Would you please to have a look how far the Guam and Hawaii islands are from the US?
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    by: VietL from: Vietnam
    June 22, 2014 6:23 AM
    hi Reality,

    I don't deny your opinion, I know some big countries had the oversea territories such as France , England, USA, etc. Hongkong have ever been belonged to UK Kingdoms , Vietnam have ever been belonged to France, several parts of China have been belonged to Japan. Vietnam is also administrating the almost of Spratly islands outside EEZ zone. The key of the problem is that we are living in the 21 century and China is trying to twist the law of world, to use the power of muscle to bully the small countries, to draw U shaped line which is along the beach side of Philippines and violate the deep EEZ of Malaisia, Brunie, Vietnam, to claim all of the sea for them. In fact, China could draw the other U shaped lines more in North Pole, Antarctica or the Moon now and use it in the future once she is Number One. Don't try to stole the resource from the weak countries because the ants could kill a big elephant.

    by: jonathan huang from: canada
    June 19, 2014 11:01 AM
    spratly islands are not within viet EEZ! viet should get out of it! viet is crazy and greedy by claiming 80% south china sea! Democratic Taiwan published the nine dash line in 1947! its a proof that SCS belongs to china! Viet PM recognized china sea territory in writing in 1958 after PRC declared 12 nm sea territory around her mainland and all islands including Taiwan, xisha, nansha, zhongsha and dongsha! viet text books were using their chinese names for xisha and nansha islands until 1974. that is also a strong proof that those islands belong to china not to viet! viet is a cheap liar!
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    by: VietL from: Vietnam
    June 20, 2014 2:33 AM
    hi jonathan ,

    Spratly islands is not within Vietnam's EEZ, that is right, around 230 to 250 miles from Vietnam's mainland. And around 700 miles from China's mainland. You should talk your government to get out of it too.


    Paracel islands, a part of it (Crescent Group) is in Vietnam's EEZ, 170 Miles from Vietnam's DaNang province, 120 Miles from Vietnam' Ly Son island. Another part (Amphitrite Group) is 235 miles from China's mainland, 140 miles from HaiNan island. All of group Paracel islands which are under administrated by Vietnam's feudal dynasties, Protection of the French government and Southern Vietnam to 1974, They have built many fortifications including the landmarks here. http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qu%E1%BA%A7n_%C4%91%E1%BA%A3o_Ho%C3%A0ng_Sa#mediaviewer/T%E1%BA%ADp_tin:BiaChuQuyenHoangSaCuaVietNam.jpg.


    Vietnam claimed 200 miles EEZ by the international law of sea, claimed Paracel islands and Spratly islands by inherent territory for long years ago. I see about 40% Southeast Asian Sea (South China Sea).

    China claim all of sea about 90% Southeast Asean sea by 11 dash-line. What is laws of the world say that you draw a circle on the ocean, it is yours. The Southeast Asian sea is not Chinese's lake , it is sea. Let get out.
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    by: Remie from: Canada
    June 19, 2014 8:07 PM
    @jonathan hung,
    like I said another Chinese twisting facts . Vietnam is drilling within their 200 EEZ zone from country NOT island. Vietnam does not claim 80% of sea! open your tiny eyes and look carefully . And what Vietnam claims at is approximately close to their land NOT like China U shape which does not make sense. So what if Taiwan claim the same as China , it's still doesn't make sense even if their democratic. What kind of proof is that.
    Like the letter from North Vietnam said it only recognize 12 nautical, nothing more , so stop making up stuff . Also that letter was not from the official decision maker of North Vietnam . Also North Vietnam did not own islands but rather South Vietnam .
    The text book you are talking about is another Chinese propaganda . It did not use xisha or what ever you are referring BUT rather a Vietnamese spelling which China imaginary made it sound like xisha.
    Again, China's ploy to invent fake evidence because they are greedy country . Vietnam , Europe and the America have their maps which undisputed proof that Vietnam administer those islands. China also has some maps BUT are hiding it. China is the only cheap liar

    by: Nigeshabi from: Canada
    June 19, 2014 1:00 AM
    the 11-dash line (boundary between China and Vietnam/Phillipines etc) of South China Sea was set by KMT (taiwan) government, who was an ally of the US in WWII, now the 11-dash line reduced to 9-dash line. During WWII and after WWII until 1950-1970s, Philippines and Vietnam have never questioned 9-dash line, actually Vietnam even acknowledged by written form for boundary between China and Vietnam (i.e. 9 dash line) in 1950-1970s. In the past 20-30 years, Vietnam changed their mind and used 1980s so called sea treaty to try to get more South China Sea back. Vietnam even claimed almost all of South China Sea as its territory. The sea treaty is ratified in 1980s and is not applicable for boundary set in 1950-1970s between China and Vietnam. We cannot use current law to judge cases which happened before the law was in effect.

    For example, the current US immigration law are not applicable to people who came to North America before the US immigration law was in effect, if you disagree with this, most Americans should go back to Europe since most of them came to North American illegally, and they should follow the current US immigration law to immigrate to US again. If you think this is ridiculous, then only stopping blaming China, China does have its reasons and basis for South China Sea claims. Please remember KMT government (Taiwan), a US ally, set up 9-dash line in 1940s.

    Please also remember that it is Vietnam who occupied most South China Sea islands and extracted (is extracting) huge amounts of gas and oil from South China Sea , NOT China, China didn’t get one drop of oil from South China sea so far. So it is Vietnam who bully China, a small dog is biting a big elephant
    Calm down before you only blame China and before your prejudice. These Asian countries should talk and stop provocative actions, e.g. Vietnam should stop extracting gas and oil from disputed South China Sea in order to get China back to the Table. Vietnam, the aggressive small dog, should not bully China, the big elephant, much if Vietnam really want to solve South China Sea issues.

    So China has its reasons, basis and legal principles for its claims, the only way to resolve these disputes is by peaceful talking and compromise each other instead of blaming and showing prejudice to China and Chinese.

    Some guys here really have strong prejudice about China without basic knowledge about histories, for example, it is Japan which invaded China during WWII. Japanese like to call themselves big Japan, but Japan is actually smaller than China in land area, but it is Japan who launched 14 years invasion to China during WWII. Can you believe it?
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    by: Huy Gia Hội from: Canada
    June 19, 2014 9:42 AM
    Nigeshabi, China is also calling themselves world leader, but in fact they are playing dirty, not standing by international rule and using their power trying to bully smaller neighbours. China is coward. It's calling itself as big country. Go picking on country of its size and see what will happen. You are also talking about Japan invaded China. Well go study your history and you will know how many times China had tried to invade Vietnam and got defeated. It's no different this time. Your country will fail again and again.
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    by: November from: Australia
    June 19, 2014 9:17 AM
    I think your reasoning is limited. Have you ever done some logical thinking about this issue? If Paracel Islands and the surrounding water areas belong to China then would China let Vietnam to extract the oil from it for such that long time? I do not think so-(especially it's China we are talking about). China did not extract oil in this area and it did not do anything while Vietnam has been extracting the oil and gas just because of one simple reason: Paracel Islands and the surrounding water areas belong to Vietnam.

    But now China started to bite in the water areas, I am wondering what the reasons are? Might it be because now China think they are one of the "big" country so they can rewrite the law, or rewrite the whole history? even the the world history? You seem to like history, I advise you to learn history again to understand who played the bully role all along the history of the relationship of two countries.
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    by: Hoang from: Canada
    June 19, 2014 7:32 AM
    Nigeshabi,
    please use your real Chinese name. You must have it in reverse. Before 1954, China or Taiwan never claim any islands in East Sea. Vietnam has many historical maps around the world that Hoang Sa(Paracel) and Truong Sa(Spratly) islands belong to Vietnam. Vietnam occupied most islands because Vietnam has administrative have control of these islands for centuries until China invaded Paracel islands from South Vietnam in 1974 and one Spratly island from Vietnam in 1988 killing 80 Vietnamese sailors. If China believe it has a case go to neutral international arbitration instead of wanting to deal with each country one by one where China can bully. The world knows China lies.
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    by: Remie from: Canada
    June 19, 2014 7:27 AM
    @nigshabi,
    You are another delusional Chinese . So what if Taiwan claim same as China. It is still has to be proven with facts not just "ancient time". Taiwan does not escalate situation Vietnam does not claim what ridiculous China claim . Also , what Vietnam claim is closer in proximity to them than it is to China . Vietnam can drill as much as they want if it is in their EEZ and not in dispute waters BUT China went to Vietnam undisputed EEZ and raise the tension.
    China is the real bully so stop trying to twist the situation and make China look so innocent. It isn't working . Oh by the way that letter you talk about Vietnam admitting islands belong to China is also China twisting facts. The letter does not admits island to China but rather only says to respect China 12 nautical miles. CHINA HAS NOTHING TO BACK THEIR CLAIM

    by: Chi Le from: USA
    June 18, 2014 7:55 PM
    China has never been a peaceful neighbor with Vietnam, which 1000-year history proved this. Invading Vietnam’s water areas is a long-term Chinese plot, and it won’t give up the plot. Aggressive actions of China if doesn’t happen at the time, it will happen at another time, and I am sure the dispute will be deadlocked, except Vietnam gives in its sovereignty. Vietnam should challenge the legality of the water areas in international court, change to a democratic, multiparty regime, and make the military ally with the U.S. to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity, rather than meeting with deadlocking disputes. Any delay is the victim of the foul play of an expanding China.
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    by: NG from: Canada
    June 20, 2014 7:25 PM
    Vietnam has never been peaceful people in the 1000 years, and bothered robbed Chinese civilians, including girls, around the boundary, that is the main reasons why some China dynastyies beated Vietnam.
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    by: Hoang
    June 19, 2014 7:33 AM
    Very well said. Vietnam has no other option.

    by: Andy
    June 18, 2014 7:40 PM
    China is going to make Vietnam into its Mexico while the rest of the world can't do anything but watch.

    by: Sam Walton
    June 18, 2014 7:31 PM
    After years of invested in China now USA realized we have indirectly fed the Red Commies China to be our new leader.
    Red Chinese do not has moral and so they would
    1. Invaded neighboring countries (stolen/ invaded territories from other countries)
    2. Lies and Cheats
    3. Make most fake products
    4. Steal people R&D
    5. Red Chinese brutally harvests inmates organs
    6. China is one of the most polluted country in the world.
    7. Red Chinese would run over their own children with tanks Tiananmen Square June 4th 1989 what red Chinese will do to us?
    8. Unfair trading by low wage, offered workers no benefits tactics. Let face it, most of products in US are made in China.
    http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/06/us-investments-markets-emerging-markets-fdi_slide_10.html
    ...while we have millions of American receiving unemployment benefits???...while we have soldiers comes home from the Iraq, Afghanistan look for jobs???
    Are we pay (invest) to red commies China so that we would lost our manufacturing jobs and indirectly promoting the red commies Chinese to be our new world leader?
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    by: 1worldnow from: Earth
    June 20, 2014 1:45 AM
    Jonathan Huang, from Canada. Good grief bro, we all get your deep hatred for the USA, we got it. Add just a dash of intellect, other than bashing the most hated (but for some strange reason, the most sought after) country in the world. Since you have obviously done extensive objective research in your USA bashing, the good ole' USA did not kill millions of Iraqis nor millions of Afghanis. Muslims killed millions of Iraqis and millions of Afghanis. I guess it's the USA that's killing the tens of thousand of Iraqis and Syrians today? This is just a forum for us all to inspire INTELLIGENT discussions, you should try it, you might like it. I asked you before to please remove 'Canada' for your location! I enjoy ripping on Canadians (South Park anyone? hehe), but Canada is an awesome country, so, please change your location to 'Fantasy Island' or something. For all you who enjoy bashing China, Vietnam, USA, whatever, remember, the government is not the country, it's the people. And the people that are suffering at the hands of politicians and religious extremists. Period!
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    by: Anonymous
    June 19, 2014 11:58 AM
    Have you ever been to China? How many places in China have you ever visited? How many Chinese citizens have you ever face to face spoken with?
    If you can't ask these questions, you are just one so easily influenced by your politicians, same as those living in authoritarian regime.
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    by: Jonathan huang from: Canada
    June 19, 2014 1:33 AM
    There is one country,
    Invaded Iraq with a faked excuse, killed millions innocent Iraqis.
    Invaded Afghanistan, killed millions innocent afghanis,
    Jailed civilians in Guantanamo bay prison without trail for 10 years.
    Bombing innocent villagers with drones in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
    Incited Ukraine riot but failed to protect Crimea as it promised.
    Trained Ben laden, funded sadam, Taliban,
    Keep printing money and debt. Can't give all it's ppl Medicare.
    Who is this big bully?
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    by: ART from: USA
    June 18, 2014 9:06 PM
    I think it start to work if we continue to :
    1- STOP buying CHINA products.
    2- STOP traveling to CHINA.
    3-STOP flying CHINA airline (even via connections)
    4- STOP doing business with CHINA
    5- STOP teaching or showing CHINA how to make a copy (this is what chinese will come back
    and bite you).
    6- STOP selling high tech goods to CHINA.
    7- STOP spying for CHINA.
    8- STOP making friends to CHINA.
    9- STOP inviting chinese to your countries (this is where they spy or engage in espionage)
    10- STOP watching chinese movies or TV series opera

    by: blueberries from: USA
    June 18, 2014 7:08 PM
    Can someone please explain to the Chinese what a disputed territory means ???
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    by: small cloud
    June 18, 2014 11:27 PM
    Disputed ... means :

    - I'm bigger than you... so... whatever I say... all is true. I said it's a dispute... so " IT IS A DISPUTE". Simple uh ha?

    - Stealing things for the others... waiting for things to settle down... exchanging things to my own laundering money. If someone asks me (or find out my unclear money), I'll explain (or say it's a DISPUTE). what in my hands is mine... now go and find your lawyers :D

    by: Donald Berrian from: Massachusetts
    June 18, 2014 6:12 PM
    Drilling for oil in disputed territory is an original and extremely unwise move. The Vietnamese would be justified in sinking the drilling rig. China seems to be gearing up for war against their neighbors again.

    by: Purushottam Upadhyay from: Jaipur
    June 18, 2014 5:18 PM
    China seems to be having troubles with all of his neighbors except for Pakistan and North Korea. This gives a clear cut indication of China's inclination towards its contribution to world.
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    by: Yanbian from: N Korea
    June 21, 2014 4:50 PM
    China has enought problems with North Korea too.
    There are too many cheaper chinese women can not competing North Koreans beatifuly ladies in chinese border areas.
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    by: Kashgar from: Dubai
    June 21, 2014 4:46 PM
    China has trouble with everyone but Pakistan !
    Why not with Pakistan ? Pakistan is like a lady on the street follows any one who gives 5 Ruppes for one night and now only China will give them something like that.
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    by: NG from: Canada
    June 19, 2014 2:10 AM
    @Purushottam Upadhyay from: Jaipur: you are so so empty-headed and uneducated.

    Japan has 4 neighbors and has boundary disputed with all its neighbors (100%); China has 14 neighbors and only has boundary problems with 4 of them (~28%).

    Boundary disputes related to China:
    1) China-Japan: Japan was brutal Fascist/Nazi during WWII, but Japan didn't follow the well-known Potsdam Declaration and Cairo Declaration (signed by US, Russian, UK, China) during WWII, and occupy more land area than it should based on Potsdam Declaration and Cairo Declaration (see wiki); Japan is a liar about history and cheated many people.

    2) China-India: McMahon Line was drawn by England guy, whi privately and unilaterally change boundary between China and India without presence of China. Of course, China cannot recognize it. So a British caused boundary dispute between Indian and China.

    3) China-Vietnam/Philippines: the 11-dash line (boundary between China and Vietnam/Phillipines etc) of South China Sea was set by KMT (taiwan) government, who was an ally of the US in WWII, now the 11-dash line reduced to 9-dash line. During WWII and after WWII until 1950-1970s, Philippines and Vietnam have never questioned 9-dash line, actually Vietnam even acknowledged by written form for boundary between China and Vietnam (i.e. 9 dash line) in 1950-1970s. In the past 20-30 years, Vietnam changed their mind and used 1980s so called sea treaty to try to get more South China Sea back. Vietnam even claimed almost all of South China Sea as its territory. The sea treaty is ratified in 1980s and is not applicable for boundary set in 1950-1970s between China and Vietnam. We cannot use current law to judge cases which happened before the law was in effect.

    So China has its reasons, basis and legal principles for its claims, the only way to resolve these disputes is by peaceful talking and compromise each other instead of blaming and showing prejudice to China and Chinese.
    In Response

    by: Jonathan huang from: Canada
    June 19, 2014 1:26 AM
    Clearly you forgot the most important one, Russia, let along others. China has 14 neighbors share land border, and among them only two have dispute, India and budhan.
    China has allies such as Russia, Laos, Burma, Cambodia, Pakistan! Has good relationship with Thailand, Korea, Afghanistan, hasakastan, Tajikistan. Only has trouble with Japan, India, viet and philipine.
    On the other hand, Japan has territory dispute with all of its neighbors, kril island with Russia, Dokdo island with Korea, Diaoyu islands with Taiwan and China.
    Viet has no friends at all, it's communist, it's poor, it's backward and greedy! Viet fought war with America, invaded Cambodia and Laos, fought war with Thailand and China, viet is a rabis dog!
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