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China Names Military Chiefs for Disputed Island City

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China announced Thursday that it had appointed two senior military officers to head a garrison in a new city established on a disputed island just days ago.

Official media Friday quoted Defense Ministry spokesman Yang Yujun as saying the garrison will be responsible for defense of Sansha city, which was established Monday across several disputed islands in the South China Sea.



Beijing's move brought a swift response from Philippines President Benigno Aquino, who said in his state of the union address Monday that his country would not back down in the territorial dispute.

The islands under dispute are also claimed by Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan.

Some information for this report was provided by AP and AFP.

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by: Charlie from: UK
July 30, 2012 1:41 PM
Nobody wanted to become Chinese by choice,it was forced on them.If given the choice,they'd rather be Mongolians,Manchurians or Tibetans and so on.The Chinese people have not been that great anyway.They were ruled over and treated like dirt by the very same people that they cynically referred to as Savages for over 500 years,and it were the Mongolians and Manchurians that brought greatness to China,not the Chinese themselves.Throughout their history,China has always waged wars against their neighbours and at times they were themselves conquered and treated far worse than animals.This is what we call:"What goes around,comes around".If america had known that the Chinese people would go on the war paths agains,they would have left you to rot under Japanese rule to be used for target practice and guinea pigs for secret projects,then you wouldn't have been able to go around waging wars,causing troubles and bragging how great the Chinese are


by: nguyen from: usa
July 28, 2012 1:29 AM

Vietnam uncovers new evidence that islands do not belong to China
A Han-Chinese map of China published by Shanghai Publishing House in 1904 reveals that China stretched as far south as Hainan Island, and that Hoang Sa (Paracel) and Truong Sa (Spratly) Islands did not belong to China.

After holding it for 30 years, Dr. Mai Hong, former head of the Library of the Institute for the Study of Chinese and Demotic Scripts and Cultures, has decided to release the historical evidence.

Hong recently sat down with Tuoi Tre for an interview about the map:

How did you get this map?

I got this map when I administered a library of Chinese and Demotic Script books (now Institute for the Study of Chinese and Demotic Scripts and Cultures) in 1977. At that time, collecting maps was not our administrative function. However, to my surprise, an elderly man who often sold books to us showed up at our office one day and recommended I buy this map. I spent one month's salary to purchase it without my family's knowledge.

Is it a valuable map made a long time ago?

Yes, it is. It's a color-coded paper map that has a carton-paper cover and can be opened like a book. Inside the map, there are more than 35 pieces - each measured at 20cm wide, 30cm long - stuck on canvas. Because I can read Han-Chinese, I've translated about 600 Han-Chinese words into Vietnamese that adequately represents the origin and date of the map.

According to the translation, the map was created across nearly two decades (1708 - 1904), from the Kangxi Emperor who ruled China from 1661 - 1722 to the Guangxu Emperor from 1875 to 1908. The emperors asked many clergymen and gifted astronomers and mathematicians to make this map.

More specifically, in 1708, King Kangxi recruited some western clergymen to draw the map of the Great Wall. In 1711, the King continued to ask the clergymen to survey lands in 13 provinces nationwide. After that, Chinese intellectuals and western clergymen worked together for nearly 200 years to finish this map. Among famous western clergymen helping King Kangxi with the map were Matteo Bicci from Italy, Joannes Adam Schall Von Bell from Germany, and Ferdinandus Verbiest from Belgium.

In 1904, Shanghai Publishing House printed this map and distributed it to all provinces of the Qing Dynasty, the last imperial dynasty of China ruling from 1644 to 1912. The introduction of the map was written by the director of a Chinese observatory

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by: Jonathan Huang from: canada
July 29, 2012 10:48 PM
@Charlie (UK), you think UK never thought about keep HongKong? Problem is you were too weak to win the war. UK and US already tasted it in Korea and Vietnam. Communist party defeated all the enemies to get all territories back, fare and square! And do you know what happened to Manchurians? They are not different from Hans any more, thanks GOD! They are smart and that is the destiny of Mogolians Tibetans and Ugrgrs, may be even Korean and Viets, they all become Chinese then there is no war any more. Europe is trying to do the same right now, but unfortunately, you are not smart enough! you still fight each other until your race die out and loss your land to other race, that is your destiny.

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by: Charlie from: UK
July 29, 2012 7:07 AM
By the way up to 1911 all those lands reaching down to Hainam Island,belonged the Manchurian Qing Dynasty.China,Tibet and Xinjang were just Manchurian colonies all the same.Prior to WW2 many lands and borders kept changing hands through wars and conquests.After WW2 most countries' borders have been defined and recognised by the United Nations.How would the Chinese like if Great Britain claims back Hongkong and part of Shanghai or the Japanese claims Manchuria and Taiwan simply because they once occupied those regions,or the Vietnamese claims back Southern China which the Viet people lost to the Hans about 2100 years ago? In terms of International laws,whichever country that has continuously administered certain uninhabited islands or rocks unchallegned over a period of time,they have de facto sovereignty over those regions regardless of whoever discovered of resided over them.China's historical claims are simply baseless.To make the territorial far worse,some Chinese thinktanks and strategists recently urge the Chinese government to challenge the Japanese over the Okinawa regions as well.Don't they think they have caused enough troubles already? More wars won't do anybody any good!

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by: Jonathan Huang from: canada
July 28, 2012 11:16 PM
@Nguyen, viet. You are so stupid, the map of ROC was published in 1947 with all SCS included. What the heck to do with 1904? Did you ever finish high school?
The question is do you have a map earlier than 1947?


by: David Lu from: New York city
July 28, 2012 12:11 AM
If the Western civilized countries do not have the courage to confront the imminent China threat and endeavor to get rid of the Damocles Sword away as soon as possible, our next generation living in the U.S. will have to take the consequences and possibly be killed by the China's nuclear missiles, which can not reach the New York City and Washington D.C at present, but they will as the Chinese army are trying their best to do so. A totalitarian regime with mass-destruction weapons can not coexist with democratic Western countries. China's primary strategy now is to postpone the final battle so as to obtain the precious time to develop their weapon systems. But the Chinese army had established a State Policy that China is inevitable to fight a final battle with the United States before 2001. We Chinese Americans know exactly that the Communist regime is up to any kind of evils, for instance, organ-harvesting Falun Gong practitioners within China. About 90,000 organs were transplanted in China within a year, but voluntary donations were only about 260 pieces. The majority was from Falun Gong members and some were from death penalty prisoners (less than 2000 each year) The United States must have enough courage to face the inevitable Armageddon now and act now. Otherwise, it will be too late. The farmer is eventually bitten by the snake and died in the fable-The Snake and the Farmer.

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by: Ian from: USA
July 28, 2012 9:58 PM
David, all the countries in the world need to have advisors just as you ( remember Cassandra who foresaw the destruction of Troy, while her people did not believe her?), and not the pompous self promoter who made so many stupid deals with Mainland China such as Kissinger (many of the self serving things he wrote in his book were debunked by the release of old documents)
As if he is so brilliant that nobody else can decode the chinese (even chinese americans can not do it as good as himself) I don't know why every american politician , to this day, seems to have a need to go to him for advise about China !!! He might as well be the architect who brings us to the final calamity as the result of all the advises he metered out in the past (which can not be undone) he will not be able to give the correct advice now ever, because doing so is the same as admitting past mistakes.
Many westerners (such as himself) believe that they are experts in China if they finish reading the translation of the book "The art of war by Sun Tzu" (and this naivety could apply in dealing with other cultures as well).
I firmly believe that it does take a native of a particular culture to really read the pulse of that culture.
I am sorry that I have to admit that in this case you may be right in your analysis.


by: Mike from: California
July 27, 2012 9:41 PM
China's claim on waters hundreds of miles away from its soil and immediately off the coasts of other countries is insane. Does this mean that the U.S. can also claim part of the South China Sea? Should Australia claim waters as well? Chinese leaders are nuts.

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by: Jonathan Huang from: canada
July 29, 2012 10:39 PM
right, the latest news is that Hawaiis want to leave US, they want to vote, lets see if US allows them, LOL, hope american indians allowed to vote too, LOL

BTW you didnt say anything about Falkland? Diaoyu islands? Guam? Solomon? Come on I am waiting! Try to justify them all, try it!

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by: Hoang from: Canada
July 29, 2012 8:30 AM
To Jone and Jonathan Huang,
The people from Hawaii vote and chose to be part of U.S.A. You cannot compare that to China unilaterally declaring whole China Sea belong to China from fabricated map since 1940.

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by: Jonathan Huang from: canada
July 28, 2012 9:31 AM
@Mike(Ca), you are insane, go check how far the Falkland from UK and Argentina! How far Guam from US! How far diaoyu island from Taiwan and Japan! How far the Solomon from France!

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by: jone from: young
July 28, 2012 6:21 AM
as you konw.Hawaii is far away from the United States.But it belongs to the United States, similarly, South China Sea has been China 's territorial waters, distance does not determine ownership

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by: Nguyen from: Viet Nam
July 28, 2012 1:33 AM
Vietnam uncovers new evidence that islands do not belong to China

http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Asia/Story/A1Story20120724-361046.html


by: remie from: canada
July 27, 2012 6:12 PM
@Ian, I agree with u 1000% and that coward janathan will be hiding in Canada when conflict starts. They come here and use and never give back, instead they bad mouth the hand that feeds them. They take forgranted of thier freedom.

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by: Ian from: USA
July 29, 2012 10:16 PM
Sorry, Jonathan, Your reply to Remie is so..o..o awful, I don't know why anyone would air his ungrateful inner thought for other peoples to exam it like that.
Where are the best chinese qualities such as ren (benevolence, compassion), yi (loyalty), li (correct behaviour, propriety & manner), Zhi (knowledge and discrimination between right and wrong), Xin (integrity) that I admire so much of your culture of old? had they been wiped out by the communist government of China already (even as it is establishing Confucius institutes all over the world) ?
My parents are canadian citizens and so are half of my sibblings, they are very proud to be canadians, and they tell me that it is one of the most wonderful country in term of treating its own citizens as well as new immigrants.
-No Canada needs not to thank you for paying tax. Every citizens pay tax whether it more or less . May be peoples don't pay tax in China ? or may be you avoided paying tax when you were there? The tax is to taking care of everybody (which includes you too, when you are not capable of taking care of yourself)
Did you say "Canada's land belong to everyone because it is a stolen land from the native" as part of the answer of why you were denouncing your old chinese citizenship and taken oath to be canadian citizen? whether or not you saying it then, you still commit of violating these 3 out of 5 moral principles with your true hidden motive.
-You can not discriminate wrong or right in your thought
-you are not truthful when you became canadian citizen
-you are not loyal to the country of citizenship.

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by: Hoang from: Canada
July 29, 2012 8:42 AM
To Jonathan,
You are not the only one paying taxes. You are probably a Chinese who emigrated to Canada from China to seek a better life and abuse the system. If you badmouthed Canada so much, go back to China. Canada doesn't need people like you.

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by: Charlie from: UK
July 28, 2012 5:12 PM
I agree.Chinese left their homeland,emigrated all over the world,looking for a better life.Their problem is,wherever they live,they don't want to integrate.Whenever they get the chance they would turn against the very countries and people that shelter and feed them.How oftern do we here about Chinese expats stealing technological and commercial secrets and sending them back to China? All the time.Jonathan is just one of many.If he thinks China is so great,he should go back there and serve the commies.China simply cannot go around and claim everything belong to them historically.It's loads of craps.Historically,China was only a small area in central China,and most of present China belong to other countries.There are no basis for their claims.The Peking hawks think that they they are economically and military so powerful and they can dictate to their neighbours as they please.They forget to realise that when people's survival is threatened,they would fight back.

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by: Jonathan Huang from: canada
July 28, 2012 9:27 AM
@Remie(canada), you are wrong, Canada should thank me for my paying my heavy tax. Its my tax so those lazy people can just fooling around and do nothing, you might be one of them, Remie! I feed myself and I might feed you too with my tax! BTW, Canada's land belongs to everyone because it is a stolen land from natives. If you can live here then I have my right to use all resources here!


by: Jonathan huang from: Canada
July 27, 2012 8:43 AM
In 1958, the People's Republic of China (PRC) issued a declaration defining its territorial waters within what is known as the nine-dotted line which encompassed the Spratly Islands. North Vietnam's prime minister, Phạm Văn Đồng, sent a diplomatic note to Zhou Enlai, stating that "The Government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam respects this decision."The diplomatic note was written on September 14 and was publicized on Nhan Dan newspaper (Vietnam) on September 22, 1958.

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by: huyen from: Vietnam
July 28, 2012 11:05 PM
Jonathan,
The content of PM Pham van Dong's diplomatic note to Zhou Enlai is as follows:
"Comrade Prime Minister,
We have the honour to bring to your knowledge that the Government of the DRVN recognizes and supports the declaration dated 4th September, 1958 of the Government of the PRO fixing the width of the Chinese territorial waters. The Government of the DRVN respects this decision and will give instructions to its State bodies to respect the 12-mile width of the territorial waters of China in all their relations in the maritime field with the PRC. I address to you, comrade Prime Minister, the assurance of my distinguished consideration".

The Diplomatic Note 1958 has two clear contents: The first is the government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam noted China’s 12 nautical mile territorial waters. The second is the government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam instructed its state agencies to respect China’s 12 nautical mile territorial waters

The interpretation of the PRC on the notes September 14, 1958 by Prime Minister of Vietnam Democratic Republic as a recognition of the Chinese sovereignty over the islands is a blatant distortion when the crystal spirit and meaning of the notes that it intends to recognize the limit of territorial waters 12 nautical miles is about 22 km Central quoc.Tuc, if the waters from China, not to the Spratly and Paracel


by: Jonathan huang from: Canada
July 27, 2012 8:26 AM
The Republic of China (ROC) named 132 of the South China Sea Islands in 1932 and 1935. In 1933, ROC government logged official protest to the French government after its occupation of Taiping Island.[5] After World War II, ROC government occupied the islands earlier controlled by the Japanese. In 1947, the Ministry of Interior renamed 149 of the islands. Later in November, the Secretary Department of Guangdong Government was authorized to publish the Map of the South China Sea Islands.
The Japanese and the French renounced their claims as soon as their respective occupations/colonizations ended.-----Wikipedia

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by: Hoang from: Canada
July 29, 2012 8:43 AM
To Jonathan Huang,
made up propaganda history by PRC to people in China.

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by: Jonathan huang from: Canada
July 27, 2012 1:33 PM
Ian(US), just google ROC map 1947, then come back tell me if you see SCS was included in those dash lines.
And tell me if viets or finos have earlier map than it, if they have then upload and show us!

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by: Ian from: USA
July 27, 2012 9:44 AM
Jonathan,

Just look at the right hand pop-up on this VOA page about more maps by China (which show China did not have any right for these islands). These documents was printed by China it self, they did not lie, but can not be used to further China's ambition, so you and your greedy government just prefer not to look at them?


by: Genghis Khan from: Inner Mongolia
July 27, 2012 7:46 AM
Confucius, Mencius, etc. tried to give lessons of manners and ethics to Chinese nations, but no avail. Chinese are trying to rob other nations of everything. Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan should firstly be united in fighting against China, greedy country; then, they should jointly administer the islands without China.

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by: Jonathan huang from: Canada
July 27, 2012 10:37 AM
Sorry buddy, in terms of south china sea, Taiwan and mainland already united. Good for all Chinese, we can fight side by side to protect our mother land!


by: Charlie from: UK
July 27, 2012 7:29 AM
Imperialist China is on the war path,waging territorial wars on all fronts,from Arunachal Pradesh to East Japan Sea,down to South China Sea,reaching as far as Malaysia.Why dont the Americans,Russians,Japanese and Indians tackle these problems face to face,or China would think that they are invincible and can do whatever they want.If a war with China is inevitable,why dont we confront them when they are still weak?

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by: Mike from: California
July 27, 2012 9:50 PM
Jonathan huang is correct. The U.S. and the E.U. should close their markets to China and open them to all other countries. It would be more fair to everyone, and show more respect to the Chinese. Jobs would be created at home, and the Chinese would not be forced to do business with those who caused all the world's problems. Problem solved!

On the other hand, Jonathan's facts are twisted and incorrect. He is living in Canada while self identifying as Chinese and not Canadian. Perhaps the Canadians should look at who they are letting in. Just a thought.

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by: Ian from: USA
July 27, 2012 2:28 PM
Yes Jonathan !
China did it best to help the poor peoples all over the world such as supply weapons to Sudan to kill, and rape innocent indigenous black peoples in Dafur.
So far the death number reaches between 200,000 to 400,000.
Do your government allows you to know this fact of China involvement? or is it forbidden internet knowledge for average chinese citizens?

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by: Jonathan huang from: Canada
July 27, 2012 11:45 AM
Who killed millions innocent Iraqis? Who invaded Iraq without UN authority? Who lied about the MDW in Iraq? Who is killing civilians including women and kids in Afganistan? US UK two biggest evils in the world dare judge China! What China did in the history was million times better than you did! CCP is doing the best to help people, to lift them from poverty, but US UK are pushing people into poverty! Yes we Chinese opened our eyes and see exactly how ugly US and UK were, are and will be! Never trust US UK!

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by: Ian from: USA
July 27, 2012 9:50 AM
And, Chinese have never dipped their hands in other peoples' blood any where for thousands of so called glorious historical years ?
Look in the mirror, Jonathan, you even killed your own (who demanded freedom) in Tiananmen square.

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by: Jonathan huang from: Canada
July 27, 2012 8:29 AM
These words should not come out of the mouth of former pirates and opium smugglers. How many American Indians and native Australians have been killed by ugly brits?

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