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    US Shutdown Enters Week 2

    Obama Says He Won't Negotiate Under Threati
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    October 08, 2013 8:43 AM
    President Barack Obama says he is not going to negotiate ending the U.S. government shutdown or raising the debt ceiling while under threat from congressional Republicans.
    Obama Says He Won't Negotiate Under Threat
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    A partial U.S. government shutdown began its second week Tuesday with a vow from President Barack Obama that he will not negotiate on the shutdown or the country's debt ceiling while under threat from Republicans.
     
    The president spoke Monday in Washington to workers at the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the government agency that handles disaster response and one of the numerous government offices forced to temporarily furlough employees.
     
    Obama urged Republicans to drop what he calls their "ideological demands" and move beyond the "manufactured crisis" caused by the shutdown. He said Congress must pass a clean spending bill to reopen the government -- one with no issues attached -- before he will hold talks with Republicans on fiscal and budget issues.
     
    Republican House Speaker John Boehner has said it is the president, not Republicans, who is risking economic catastrophe by refusing to talk.
     
    Hundreds of thousands of government workers are still furloughed and many services are unavailable. The shutdown began when congressional Democrats refused to go along with Republican demands to defund the president's health care program.
     
    Meanwhile, the United States is facing an October 17 deadline to increase its borrowing limit so that it does not default on its financial obligations. The country is running out of money to pay its bills, including interest on bonds held by China, Japan and other overseas investors.
     
    China is warning that the "clock is ticking." Vice Finance Minister Zhu Guangyao said it is important for the United States to act quickly to protect more than $1 trillion in Chinese investments in the U.S., and the global economic recovery.
     
    The White House has said it wants an increase in the debt ceiling big enough that it would not have to be raised again until late next year. However, spokesman Jay Carney said on Monday that the White House is not ruling anything in or out when Congress considers how long to raise the debt limit.

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    by: Mr. Drake from: USA
    October 08, 2013 10:37 AM
    But the TSA is still sticking their hands down our pants, now at the mall too, the NSA is still spying on US, yes YOU!!!! and our country is STILL run by offshore banks, masquerading as a criminal mafia. The USA is screwed, as the thugs arrest Vets for visiting memorials. FIGHT BACK AGAINST TYRANNY AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHUTDOWN TYRANNY!!!

    by: Fascist States from: Fascist States
    October 08, 2013 9:37 AM
    USA? NO! FSA, (Fascist States of America) FACT!

    It is now clear to me that as this government goes into its slow-motion collapse, it’s going to wreak total economic havoc on the entire nation and destroy as much as possible as it falls. I am making a public prediction right here — with 100% confidence — that this government will, without any hesitation, seize private bank accounts and pension funds in order to avoid going into default itself. This will of course be described by the thieving government as a way to “protect” your private funds and back them up with the “full faith and credit of the United States government.”

    But what faith and credit are they talking about? Faith has been destroyed. “Credit” has already gone far beyond the point of no return. This government is never paying back its creditors. The plan at this point is to simply ride out the explosion of the money supply for as long as possible, and then declare Martial Law when the whole thing collapses and the masses lose everything.

    Obamacare itself is not even the real problem in all this. Obamacare is merely the symptom of a disease called “government greed and corruption.”

    Like anybody else, people in government desire unlimited power, and they are willing to do absolutely anything to get it, including holding a gun to the head of the American people and making ransom demands that must be met if we all want government services turned back “on.”

    It’s all just “shutdown theater.” It’s the Cirque du Soleil of Big Government, except that in this circus, all the acrobats are over-medicated diabetics, and therefore the entire show is pulled off with high wires, smoke and mirrors instead of actual acrobatic talent.

    That’s the Obama way. Pure theater. 100% illusion and rhetoric. And you have a front row seat to watch all the B.S. unfold right before your very eyes… how fortunate!

    by: Unbelieveable from: USA
    October 08, 2013 9:35 AM
    The end of government credibility...

    What you are really watching here, folks, is much more than merely the last act of government theater: You are watching the end of government credibility in the minds of the American people.

    The idea that government functions as an institution “for the People, by the People and of the People” is now a cruel joke. Obama has turned government into a weapon to be used against the People in order to force their compliance with a blatantly unconstitutional, unethical, unworkable law that is the cornerstone of Obama’s disastrous legacy.

    Your government is now your mafia. Your doctor is your dealer. Your health plan is a shakedown. The playbook of Obama lackeys is a tome of dirty tricks. Remember, this is the administration that literally smuggled illegal guns into Mexico in order to cause an explosion of gun violence that could be blamed on gun owners. This is an administration that now shoots dead a young black mental patient who makes a wrong turn at Capitol Hill with her car.

    This is an administration that believes it has the legal right to force you to buy anything it wants you to buy, including rip-off health insurance policies, because it now claims ALL authority over ALL commerce, including what you decide to do with your own discretionary income (if you have any left after paying taxes, anyway).

    This is an administration that selectively targeted “patriot” non-profit groups for harsh IRS audits. This is an administration that promised to label GMOs then betrayed the American people by secretly negotiating an international treaty that would outlaw GMO labeling globally. This is no longer a representative government at all: it is a tyranny of force and firepower. Obama is not the President; he is the head of an occupying criminal mafia.

    100% chance the government will confiscate your private wealth as it collapses!

    by: Tyranny is here from: USA
    October 08, 2013 9:34 AM
    Americans are fed up!!!!

    In many ways, you are now watching the final act of government theater. It’s not over ’til the “fat lady sings,” as they say, but she’s most definitely warming up and preparing to belt out her final operatic performance.

    Millions of Americans are completely fed up with the shenanigans of bad government. They’ve had it. Coming up in a few days, thousands of truckers are about to converge on the highways in D.C. and shut the roadways down. They’re even threatening to arrest traitorous members of Congress who have violated their oaths of office.

    Conservative talk show host Mark Levin is now warning that Obama is running what is essentially a “coup” to overthrow the Constitution and remove Congress from all future spending decisions. This effectively turns the office of the President into a dictatorship. Congress will become nothing more than a useless vestige of the old republic.

    Even other nations are starting to worry about the impending collapse of the U.S. government and its debt. China issued a stern warning today, urging America to “ensure the safety of the Chinese investments” by making sure the U.S. doesn’t go into default. China, you see, holds hundreds of billions of dollars in U.S. debt. And it doesn’t want America to go belly up anytime soon (although China surely knows it’s headed that way sooner or later).

    Obama’s position is that the U.S. should be indebted even more to China, Japan and the rest of the world. That’s why he’s demanding the debt ceiling be raised. The problem with socialism, of course, is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money. But there’s a lot of damage that can be done until that day of reckoning arrives, so Obama and his cohorts are going to suck the finances out of the entire global economy to fund their socialist programs such as Obamacare, Obama phones, the fast-expanding government food stamp program, and any other popular giveaways they can dream up.

    Remember: This is all being done to enforce a rip-off, monopolistic health care nightmare — the Affordable Care Act — that’s so unpopular, Obama has to hold the entire nation ransom in order to try to shove this monster down people’s throats.

    by: Me Shell Obama from: Lost
    October 08, 2013 9:33 AM
    In this theater of the absurd, you are now watching the final act play out......

    This staged government shutdown isn’t the only theater taking place in Washington today. I’m hearing more and more rumblings about the looming global financial implosion, and the Fed is furiously trying to print money as fast as it can in order to create the theatrical illusion that the economy is fundamentally sound.

    The Obamacare delusion is pure theater as well. Virtually the entire national IT infrastructure for the system is non-functional. Online exchange signups are hitting a 99% failure rate. The person that Obama rolled out as a “successful” enrollee turned out to be a total fraud.

    No one in the media can seem to locate any large number of people who have actually signed up. The White House is now refusing to answer questions asking how many people have actually enrolled (probably because they can’t find anyone who actually has). The entire system is a hoax. Underneath the Obama mesmerism and cult followers, there’s almost no one who is actually enrolled in Obamacare after millions of people already tried!

    It’s also an IT nightmare. Now in its second week, the Obamacare online exchange system and Healthcare.gov is admittedly suffering from “design flaws” and critical errors. These are far more than mere glitches; this is a wholesale faulty design from the start. This ship ain’t gonna sail, folks, and the whole project is going to have to go back to the drawing board to be re-designed from scratch.

    As the Wall Street Journal reports:

    Information technology experts who examined the healthcare.gov website at the request of The Wall Street Journal said the site appeared to be built on a sloppy software foundation. Such a hastily constructed website may not have been able to withstand the online demand last week, they said.

    by: Shameful USA from: USA
    October 08, 2013 9:27 AM
    The government “shutdown” is a hoax. It is pure theater designed to make life as miserable as possible for Americans while the government keeps collecting taxes, racking up debt expenditures, running foreign wars and doing all the unconstitutional things government does these days. It is now becoming obvious to nearly all Americans that the Obama administration is running a pernicious, punitive, selective “shutdown” that’s designed to hold the American people hostage until Obama gets his way. His “ransom demand” is total capitulation to his demands for endless spending, the total takeover of medicine by Obamacare, and the centralization of power in the hands of the few.



    The Obama administration ran a similar gambit a few months back when it started releasing thousands of felony criminals from U.S. prisons, claiming it was forced to do so because of sequestration budget cuts.

    Today, the Obama administration has barricaded World War II memorials, shut down access to private businesses, closed parts of the OCEAN, closed tourist viewing areas of famous landmarks and gone out of its way to attempt to inflict suffering and inconvenience upon the People of America. It has punitively blocked access to a private hotel and even kicked people off private lands as part of the government’s shutdown theater.

    Preventing tourists from enjoying national monuments:

    American Thinker magazine reports that, “Feds [are] placing cones along highway viewing areas outside Mount Rushmore barring visitors from pulling over and taking pictures of the monument – and then lying about the reason. That’s right. The National Park Service is trying to prevent people from even seeing Mount Rushmore.”

    by: Eddie from: Chicago, Il
    October 08, 2013 8:09 AM
    Did anyone watch this video before posting it?
    This could use some editing.
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    by: Aghast from: Arizona
    October 09, 2013 11:03 AM
    Anyone reading these posts wondering if there is an alternative to this crazy ranting? I am looking for like minded extreme rationalists. The alternative to the extreme right and extreme left. The new silent majority? I think it was time we were heard before these guys tear the country apart.

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