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    Some Discontented Texans Talk Secession

    Americans in several states have filed petitions on the White House web site calling for their states to secede from the Union.  The online petition that has garnered the most signatures comes from Texas and was posted three days after President Obama's re-election.  But most Texans do not take the idea of secession seriously.
     
    Texas barbecue is on the menu and secession from the Union is the topic at this restaurant near Houston.
     
    The Texas Nationalist Movement is pushing the idea, though the group did not originate the petition for Texas to leave the U.S.  Executive director Cary Wise says people here are worried about government debt.
     
    "When the federal government can no longer sustain that debt, then that rolls back on the states, not just Texas, but all the states," Wise said.
     
    Some here complain about a spendthrift, intrusive federal government.  
     
    But most Texans seem to dismiss the idea of secession.
     
    "I don't think I would sign it," said one young man.
     
    "Oh, please! No, that would be ridiculous!," said a woman
     
    "I don't think we have the resources to completely rely on ourselves," another man said.
     
    The petition calling for Texas' secession is among several from other states that appeared on the White House Web site after President Obama's re-election.
     
    Most support appears to come from states that voted for his Republican rival, Mitt Romney, and, like Texas, seceded from the Union once before  -- sparking the American Civil War.
     
    Obama's re-election is not mentioned as a reason to secede.
     
    But the Texas petition claims, among other things, that the federal government has overstepped its power. More than 115,000 signatures are on the petition.
     
    Political Science professor Mark Jones, at Houston's Rice University, doubts that Texas will ever secede.
     
    "This is just more theater, political theater, than reality. It is not a real secessionist movement. You don't have any serious political actor getting behind the movement to secede," Jones said.
     
    Jones notes that the signatures on the petition represent a tiny fraction of the state's more than 25 million people.
     
    "This petition was started as a lark (a joke) by a college student up in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, and many of the people signing it are not even Texans," Jones said.
     
    That's because anyone can register on the White House web site and sign the petition.
     
    At the the nationalists' barbecue lunch, about 20 people attended, but some like Gina, came mainly to listen.
     
    "I don't really know that secession is really a possibility, that it really could happen, but if any place in the country could do it, I know that it could be done here," Gina said.
     
    And while not everybody agrees, the Texas professor says signing is an easy way to vent frustration with official Washington.

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    by: Tessa from: Oregon
    December 10, 2012 1:31 PM
    Ya'll need to stop ....regroup, and pull together as a state. I for one, do believe (we the people) have the common-sense attitude that westerner s' do not possess. Furthermore, unity is what our grand country is built on....so why ya'll pussy-footin around ?

    by: Jack D. Montana from: St. Louis MO
    November 26, 2012 5:53 AM
    Just think what General Sherman could do with drones! He could have ended the secessionist BS in one day!!

    by: Cole Younger from: Kansas City
    November 25, 2012 4:22 PM
    Where were all these people that stand for truth justice and the American way that we lost when G.W. Bush stole the election and his crook brother helped. that was OK wasn't it. Now they don't like the outcome of a honest election. Tuff it up.

    by: Gill Bates from: NY
    November 24, 2012 12:39 PM
    If Texas DOES secede - the federal government will have more money and Democrats will have a lock on the electoral college.

    by: Larry Linn from: Los Angeles
    November 24, 2012 9:46 AM
    Succession by Texas has already been rejected by the United States Supreme Court, Texas v. White - 74 U.S. 700 (1868).

    by: TrueAmerican56 from: TEXAS
    November 24, 2012 2:39 AM
    Anyone that thinks Texas would secede, needs their head examined, Texas is not a one mind state, South Texas would secede from the rest of Texas, and Houston, San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, El Paso would never go along with it. It was a dumb idea that ended at the end of the Civil War, and should be left as such. Don't like the Federal government, each state has 2, 4 or 6 years to change it.

    by: Russell Utoft
    November 24, 2012 1:43 AM
    The sad thing here we as a nation celebrate the 4th of July, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, We honor the ones that gave there life for this great country to be as one. Were would we be if America was not one nation under God. I know one thing we all just might be under the iron fist of the USSR. Or even worse the iron cross of Nazi Germany. Now some of those people in tha State of Texas have come down off there high horse and see just what fools they are making of there state. Here is a state that as much if not more depend on Washingtion for a living. Thousands of famlies. Austin, San Antonion, two wonderful cities have made it clear. Keep it up and we want out of Texas. Brake up Texas. Were are the Bushes on this? I know W is no were to be seen sence he left the white house. No it is sad what these people are doing to the parents of the loved ones that died for this great country. Oh you say you do not like the direction the country is going. So like little babies you went to quit and go home. Well there some that see direction as just fine. You always think I,I,I, ME, ME, ME. Well I think Texas is going in the wrong direction and if this keeps up I will never set foot on a traitor state again. If i know my Governor he will put a boycot on the state. I wonder how the big business men would like that. But the sadest thing of all is the dishonor, the disgrace to all those great men and women that are now buried in Arlington National Cemetery in VA. It just stinks!!!

    by: Buck Mast from: Tennessee
    November 24, 2012 12:13 AM
    Save your Confederate money boys,the South is going to rise again

    by: Sam from: California
    November 23, 2012 11:58 PM
    only two words... Good Riddance!

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